Turning Point USA: Charlie Kirk’s Assassination
Turning Point USA: Charlie Kirk’s Assassination
Prayers For Charlie & Family
Editor’s note: Earlier today, we published statements and condolences from local and national politicians, all of whom believe that violence has no place in political discourse.
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By now, we’re sure that you’ve heard the news: Conservative Gen-Z influencer Charlie Kirk was murdered at one of his university question-and-answer events.
We’d like to express our condolences to Charlie’s wife and two children, as well as his extended family and close friends and co-workers.
It’s our assertion that this event is, indeed, a Turning Point for the USA. What concerns us is where we’ll turn from here.
Will we somehow use this tragedy as a springboard to a better America?
Or, will this be (yet another) event chronicling our slow and steady societal decline, a sad spiral into utter chaos?
Charlie Was Loved and Hated
Many people had never heard of Charlie Kirk, we’re hearing, but the ones who had expressed strong feelings about him.
Some loved him. Others hated him. This is what we’re hearing.
In the end, one individual person let hate win out and ended the 31-year-old man’s life, making any future attempts at mutual understanding impossible.
American Freedom and The American Way
At the Staten Islander, we’ve always felt that discussion is best.
We WANT our readers to have different ideas from each other.
A comment section where everyone’s in agreement about everything is the epitome of boredom.
Conversely, a comment section where ad hominem attacks and vile vitriol predominates is likewise a waste of everyone’s time and energy.
Murdering someone because they disagree on some issue, or even the fundamentals, is not the American Way.
In our estimation, our disagreements are an American strength, and not a weakness.
Through this crucible of debate, we’ve learned and grown as a Nation over the centuries. There were missteps. Corrections followed.
This process is only possible when dialogue is happening, otherwise stagnation sets in.
Americans Get Along. Mostly.
The Freedoms we have here provide us with a unique opportunity to live differently from one another, and from any other people on the Earth.
We have different faiths, different political ideologies, different philosophies, different ways of doing things and getting things done.
That’s the U.S.A.
We mostly get along and have great mutual respect for one another’s different cultural and ethnic background.
We coexist, not in some liberal or conservative dream utopia, but in real life, every single day of the year, in our imperfect world.
And, when we don’t, it makes headlines across the world.
The Shooter Wore An American Flag-Motif Shirt
The shooter wore a shirt bearing the image of the American Flag as part of its design.
How disgusting was that?
People hiding behind the flag to harm the very principles the flag represents are cowardly.
The shooter wasn’t “defending American values” or any values, for that matter.
He was doing precisely the opposite, in actual fact: attacking our National Values, making this act all the more despicable by wearing a flag-design on his shirt while he committed this horrendous crime.
Mutual Respect Yields Greater Insight for All
When we come together in mutual respect and understanding, it’s impossible not to walk away with greater insight.
We learn from everyone we encounter…hopefully.
Someone, a fellow American, may live differently and subscribe to a different set of beliefs than you.
Does that make them a commie? Or, for that matter, a fascist?
It’s impossible to miss that American people on social media throw these terms around way too liberally.
Yes; both Republicans and Democrats must speak more judiciously, more conservatively, and when employing the use of such language, reserve these terms for true cases that meet the actual criteria, if they’re going to speak that way. for real.
Calling an elected official Hitler or Stalin really disrespects the historical memory of those that suffered under severe political systems.
It’s a horrendous exaggeration to call someone a name like this when all they’ve done is vote on a bill that you don’t like.
And, it’s dehumanizing.
Conversation, Not Violence
Whether you liked or disliked Charlie Kirk, or didn’t know Charlie Kirk from a stranger, we must admit he was giving university students a forum to discuss politics and its intersection with faith.
He shared his ideas and perspectives with students freely, and listened when they did the same.
Whether you agree with his ideas or not, that’s not even the point.
How do you have a discussion when there’s violence involved?
Blowing away the “other side” is ludicrous. That is the absolute end to all future discussion!
Instead, blow them away with reason, intuition, creativity, expressiveness, wit, and charm!
Objectifying People As a Group Is Dangerous
That’s the hazard of “othering” people for any reason, and considering them as a “lesser” group.
Once a person is objectified, and their humanity no longer recognized, anything goes.
History shows this can happen, and has happened.
And, this is a hazard for people of any political or philosophical persuasion, a pitfall that must be avoided at all costs.
You can be a Democrat, Republican, Greenie, Conservative, Christian Right, Leftist, Marxist, Moderate, Capitalist, Anarchist, or anything else, and make this same error.
Those who don’t think like you are still people.
Most likely, they include some of your neighbors and family members. They’re your fellow Americans and fellow human beings.
Keep this all in perspective.
What Did the Shooter Care About, If Anything?
Realize that we’re headed down a very divisive path as a nation and civil society, with the destination being a future where civility is a lost concept.
Charlie Kirk was a person with a wife and two kids. The shooter didn’t care.
Charlie was only 31. The shooter didn’t care.
Charlie Kirk was providing a chance for young people to debate his ideas, publicly. The shooter didn’t care.
What did the shooter care about? Charlie’s views and deeply held beliefs apparently were of issue, if news reports shed any light upon the matter.
The shooter didn’t care that Charlie had a right to his own beliefs. The shooter, apparently, held vastly different beliefs. There’s no question.
They only wanted to make sure to stop Charlie from exercising his own rights, including his right to person-hood, his right to exist.
And, if we need to tell you, you need some help no one can offer:
That’s not the way we do things in the U.S.
Not. At. All.
The Shooter’s Other Options Not Exhausted. Not By Far
The shooter could have approached the podium, instead of resorting to heinous violence, and asked Charlie anything, said anything, but certainly couldn’t just do anything.
There are limits to our freedoms, but those only begin when we transgress others’ boundaries.
The shooter could have recited a poem, sung a song, done a pantomime, relied on argumentation or debating skill.
They could have asked questions.
Really, there’s a lot.
The shooter could have shared their views and ideas from their own point of view.
Instead, they chose the finality of a bullet. It’s insensible. And, frankly, quite lame.
This. Is. NOT. War.
Do some really want a world where dissent is quashed and no one can express anything, anymore?
Let’s be honest, many people we all know hate “the other side,” whether the other side is Red or Blue.
Am I right? Be honest, now!
We need to get over this.
The few pundits who seemed to suggest, or even proclaim, “This is war!” after Charlie’s murder are misled and misleading their viewers, and a real danger to the stability of our society.
No one needs violence enacted in revenge for Charlie’s killing, not against “the libbies,” or “the transes,” or any other group.
Sure; these same news sources claim they are not advocating violence, but there are viewers some out there who will interpret such “news” as an invitation to invoke mayhem by force.
We don’t need this.
Staten Island Unity
The Editorial Board at the Staten Island News would like you, the reader, to consider how we can make Staten Island a less divisive place.
Let’s start right here and be the leaders in this, like we are in all things.
Your sister whom you haven’t spoken with in five years is still a person, even though one of you is Red, the other Blue.
You’re never going to agree on gay marriage. You’re never going to agree on free health care. Or, the vaccine. Or, very much, for that matter. There’s just no way possible.
But what can you agree on? There has to be something! Let’s begin there.
You care about one another, and each other’s kids. You care about your kids’ grand-parents, your own parents. You care about your family. Right?
That’s a start.
Keep this in mind going forward, and build on the positive so we can have a society that is safe for everyone to express their views without fear of violent reprisal.
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I didn’t know of Charlie Kirk before the assassination but I think he represented good values. Of course he is Evangelical and I am not so I don’t necessarily agree with him on a lot. Why shoot the good kid letting people speak?
I know, right? I don’t agree with his values. But I did watch him now and again. Just to see people talking and disagreeing without calling each other names.
I’m that LIB you hate and I watched Charlie Kirk also just to see the libs pwn him. It was classic. Still I cried hearing they shot him. That’s some messed up way of handling mental issues. A bottle of pills might have done better than a gun for the shooter and Charlie and his family and friends and fans.
Libs never pwned Charlie!!! Keep dreaming, lib****!
I have seen Charlie win debates and I have seen Charlie lose debates. Maybe I know better because I actually watched him like every day while you likely did not. It;’s okay to sometimes be wrong. He wasn’t God, you know. Everyone is wrong sometimes.
OMG I can’t believe you said that. Very clever.
I am left wondering if you mean taking their meds, likely they probably were supposed to, or at least should have been doing…like a bottle of antidepressants or lithium salts or…some treatment that would make them less…insane.
Then I wondered if you meant…
…something darker. Again, very clever.
Just in case any one out there is so feeling messed up they can’t deal, don’t even think about doing anything rash. From self-harm like cutting to far worse, that isn’t the answer… EVER!! You hear me, dude? It really isn’t. Remember that sunny beach you love? That sandwich you enjoyed? Stick around to experience it again! Don’t be defeated! You need help…as in allies. Professionals can fill that role.
If you need someone to talk to call 988! That is the help hotline for people who just can’t take it anymore.
It’s incredible that we live in a world where the system is set up to actually help people. For now, at least.
Nobody noticed the shooter was out of his gourd? The community failed him. He failed himself. Very sad.
what are you a lib??
Does someone have to be a “lib” to disagree with this guy? That’s really simpleminded of you. There are infinite schools of thought on life and politics. They may not even be from the US. This board is international you know.
Infinite, huh guy? You sussed? International? I see the same guys names here month after month! hahaha You know nothing.
Paulina, why should you think there are a limited number of ways of looking at the world?
In the end every individual has their own perspective and viewpoint from their own lived experience.
As an educator, I want my students to connect with the material. They will always all do so in different ways. So yeah, there are probably an infinite number of ways of looking at the world.
That’s hysterical. What have you got a 2 cylinder mind there buddy? lol
I am Roman Catholic. My values and Charlie’s do not match up. Sorry. I am not into that born again thing. Oh, and I happen to be a conservative and voted for Trump.
Sorry to ruin your image of me that you so carefully crafted after reading five words I wrote. I appreciated the channel and watched Charlie more than you. Guarantee you that. But I disagreed with most of what he represented as the “truth”. It’s not my truth or the truth of !my own! religion.
You must be a simple mind that you have to just watch shows that agree with you on everything. I also am not into the Make America Great movement and I don’t go to rallies. I just thought Trump was the better candidate.
Born Agains….. *sigh*
I had a co-worker who was a Born Again Christian. They kept asking me to come to their church. OFC, that was a no-go. I’m also Catholic and I don’t believe in their brand of Christianity. As for this CK guy, I have to admit I didn’t know about him. My family did. I alone am not into politics. Well, my 4-year-old isn’t. But my son at 14 already is. And that worries me because there are so many bad influences out there. Influencers we call them these days. Losers we’d call them back in my day. Just paid shills shilling for this politics or that politics. So I am sorry he got hot like I’d be sorry any person got shot. As for the funeral that had fireworks, IG that’s just how born-agains do things? Not my style..I remember those preachers. Then the guy who cried bc he had exrtra-marital sex. Tammie Fay Baker. Can’t remember much i was just a kid. Is it better or worse now? I think worse. Too many PPL all about politics. My son isn’t radical. But so many kids his age are. What am I supposed to do lock him in the house?
I watched Charlie Kirk just the night before he passed. The interview with Ben Shapiro. I only watched a little bit and paused and left the tab open for later. I do that a lot.
It was weird watching the conclusion of the same interview after Charlie’s passing, since I started viewing it while he was alive. Weird.
This is like our generation’s JFK moment.
Jews should note that the Pennsylvania governor’s mansion was arsoned and they escaped, thankfully. There were Dem lawmakers shot. I get it that many on the right loved Charlie Kirk. But there are other acts of violence enacted on the other side of the aisle against us. Yes, I am a Democrat. More mass murderers are on the right. If it were the other way I’d tell you that, too.
I’m not saying don’t mourn Charlie. Please gieve as you see fit, of course.
But please also remember that it’s not just “trans mass murderers”. Saying that is our nation’s big issue is a terrible distortion of the verifiable statistics. And the right is not the biggest target. It is actually the Jews. By far. We need to live in a world of facts not fictions.
You didn’t make clear that the PA gov is Jewish. Without that detail, your story doesn’t add up to anything.
Also, everyone that cares about the welfare of their fellow citizen, Jewish or not, should be concerned.
Not just the Jews reading. Every good person.
No the libs call names your wrong
These political shows on YouTube are just more internet crap. You guys are used to low quality entertainment. All you guys watch is Fox or CNN or influencers on your own political side and so it’s politics non stop all day and night. That can’t be healthy. I’m sorry but that’s the truth. You guys go bonkers over politics. Get a hobby. Do something.
wt* do u watch? Bollywood flicks all day and night? Sheesh
This is not for entertainment. News is for keeping you informed.
If you’re watching news for fun, I guess that’s your issue.
You think: quality entertainment
&
you think: Bollywood
? ? ?
He represented values, for sure..Not my values.
I think he meant well, perhaps. Not sure on that, even. He was the public figure of a big movement with big money behind him, Were his views even his own? His faith views coincided always with Republican ideas of today.
A lot of the Charlie Kirk show was too political, and too divisive, for me. I am a Catholic and for me, the Charlie Kirk show wasn’t for me. He’d mix religion with politics. I vote Republican but that is not my religion. My religion has to do with living a life with God at its center. Not politics. Being of service. Not ostracizing the needy.
Calling people “libs” is wrong for a Christian.
I don’t want Christian Nationalism. The Church does not advocate that, either, just so you know.
Still, Charlie didn’t deserve that. What a sick world.
Condolences to Charlie’s family.
Calling people “libs” is wrong for a Christian.
If it’s true, how so?
If someone is a liberal calling them a lib is just stating the facts.
Hmm…I think the tone you use matters, too. If I say you are “MAGA 2028” but say it with disgust, like I am smelling refuse, that’s also rude.Depends on what you mean when you saying the words.
Yes. Solid American values. 100%
not my values
Maybe the lefties don’t really want free speech and Charlie was providing a place where that was happening?
I know exactly zero people who ever heard of this guy. I think it is a sort of niche type of content.
You must live under a rock or something
Have you caught all the NY PHIL shows this summer, young lady?
I’ve never heard of Mr. Kirk, either, before the recent tragedy.
The most prominent and active philharmonic in NYC is the New York Philharmonic.
We cool chaps call it the NY PHIL.
There’s a full season of performances at David Geffen Hall.
Also, Kylie, don’t miss the free summer Concerts in the Parks series. It is streamed but I suggest live attendance. 🙂
https://www.nyphil.org/
Umm not really I have better tings to do that watch a bunch of college kids debate
Good values? I’d say watch TP USA You Tube and check what he says against your own values.
Then decide. Or don’t. I don’t care either way. Just trying to use common sense here.
You can’t judge one way or the other without knowing the facts.
WATCH OUT FOR THE ONES WITH ALL THE FLAGS
THE MAJORITY ARE GOOD GUYS COPS FIREFIGHTERS ETC BUT THE SCUMBAGS ALSO HIDE BEHIND THE FLAG. WATCH OUT
THEY ARE ANTI AMERICAN DEGENERATES
BEWARE OF THEM IN YOUR AREA
SOME WAVE FLAGS TO HIDE THEIR TREACHERY
OTHER WAVE A FLAG TO SHOW THEY LOVE THE USA
In my book the only one who can put an American flag on his car and not be a poser is Scott LoBaido.
Anyone else, sorry. You are not cool. Especially on your work van. Stop that isht.
Hey. What about vets? They have EVERY right to wear the flag on their shirt, stick it on their car, put it on their work truck.
I want some debate, folks. Who disagrees with me?? Tell me how in the **** you disagree.
Flag Code, buttercup.
Look it up.
No need for discussion.
The rules are very clear.
SO what are they…buttercup?
I know like ZERO veterans who wear American flag attire.
EXCEPT some wear a cap. Some have a flag pin or American flag motif.
OFC, that’s 100% acceptable! But show me a et who walks around wrapped in a flag.
Know what? I”ll show you a STOLEN VALOR PUKE! That’s it! Real men and women do not do this.
Sorry. Gonna give me the example of the lone man out who does? OK. I’ll give you that.
“But show me a et who walks around wrapped in a flag.”
As in extra-terrestrial? Hmm…Give me a little time. That will take a little work.
,,,,,,but they DON’T, see?????????
Rest in Peace Mr. Kirk.
(Registered Dem Black Man here)
One guy in particular, I hesitate to mention his name bc SI news will just remove my posting. But this sonofab**** drives around in a work truck covered in the flag airbrushing or whatever and he scams old people on contracting jobs. I know many men use the flag for their business fair enough so I am not trying to implicate them all just this one guy. He did a job a a relatives and they left a 15 year old kid from some country who didn’t even speak English as foreman. The materials used were s***. Total loser. Didn’t call back when his work failed. They are still waiting. This one guy is a scumbag. I wish I could be more clear. Sorry.
At least give a hint…….
OK. If you look up his business reviews on the platforms that allow people to leave reviews, you’ll see a ton of islanders saying what I’m saying. That should be sufficient.
Fair enough……
Commie
Let people do what the **** they want already
Stop being the ****** flag police Paul
What do you care anyway
Why do you care if I care, then???????
RIP Charlie
I don’t care if you care if he cares.
I don’t care if you don’t care if he cares if they care.
Who even asked you, Paul? You come on here every few months to cause trouble. I say put flags on everything. What kind of Republican are you if you don’t l;love the flag, Paul? And I know you fly a flag at your home, so hypocrite much???
Gary, why are you coming on here and making yourself look dumb? I fly the flag. Yup.
I was talking specifically about people who put the flag all over their motor vehicle as a decoration.
RIP Charlie
I mean, to each his own..
TELL ME MORE
okaaaaayeeeeeeee
meds time – u missed it
Really?
Secret Service Busts Hi-Tech Network Used to Threaten Trump Aides
https://www.thedailybeast.com/secret-service-busts-hi-tech-network-used-to-threaten-trump-aides/
“The Secret Service said Tuesday it had seized hundreds of servers and 100,000 SIM cards it claimed were used to send anonymous threats to Trump officials.
The devices, which were found at a handful of sites in the New York tristate area, were also capable of massive surveillance operations or cyberattacks that could have shut down New York City’s cellular network.”
THEY’RE COMING FOR YOU SCUMBAGS!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TOtally agree.
The shooter wore an American Flag shirt. Says enough.
God bless Charlie Kirk.
What in the hell are you even talking about? Only cops and firefighters can hang a flag? What about vets or everyday Americans? You.sir, are an idiot.
Man arrested for sickening act at Charlie Kirk memorial outside Turning Point headquarters in Phoenix
19-year-old Ryder Corral appeared to be wearing a shirt similar to the one worn by Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin when he vandalized the memorial
By Sophia Compton Fox News
Published September 14, 2025 4:48pm EDT
A traitor wearing an American Flag shirt! AGAIN! You were right! Spot on! Beware of the wolves in sheep clothes!
https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-arrested-sickening-act-charlie-kirk-memorial-outside-turning-point-headquarters-phoenix
Holy $#!+ Batman! I think we have a real sleuth here.
I’d say KEEP YOUR EYES AND EARS OPEN.
The enemy is here and hiding in plain sight!
This entire American Flag thing has me sickened beyond belief. They literally are hiding behind the flag.
So in your own community, in your area, which of the guys waving flags are the pretend Patriots and who are the real mcCoys? Use discernment.
These clowns are hiding their asses behind OUR FLAG!
I rad it’s a radicalized NETWORK across the USA of terror.
See something and say something. Now I see a man wearing the flag shirt and I wonder if he is secretly anti-American or a real citizen.
Probably a real American. Don’t get anxiety about people, man. What if they were wearing Hawaiian shirts? Don’t let it spook you. Of all the people wearing flag shirts, it’s probably like .0000000000000001% of them that are truly a danger.
No, I get it now.
The guys who hide behind the flag and sport flag shirts and such are /\/ /\ Z 1 $.
There’s some sort of network these guys have. I hope the F.B.I. gets to the bottom of this.
We have to draw the line somewhere.
Conservatives have to strongly put their foot down and let the world know we are not like that and don’t believe in that sort of thing. I am a Lutheran and I cannot condone some fringe group of brain damaged idiots trying to piss on the flag and our American values. To think there are /\/ /\ Z 1 $ still in this day and age…then again, many of the same group still think the Earth is flat. So….
For them it’s Jesus …and Hitler.
Definitely not “mere Christianity” as per C.S. Lewis.
The Post says they’re trans liberals.
Which is it?
Well, if I check with conservative outlets and influencers, it’s a gay man who is with a transexual, and he’s a liberal.
The progressive news and pundits online say he’s a Groyper, which is a far-right loosely organized online cult.
So both sides want to say it’s the other side, but only one side is correct.
The bullet inscriptions and inscrutable. All they tells us is that he’s into meme culture.
But at the same time —
““if you read this you are gay lmao”’
What gay person who would ever write that? It’s a diss. So that makes no sense right there.
I mean, if the guy is a lunatic murderer, I suppose anything goes and looking for logic is an absurd waste of time, anyway.
Also the Halloween costume — Was he wearing it for real or just ironically?
I think the details will come out as the days pass. For now, who knows for sure.
wt* is a trans liberal anyway? Does that mean they converted to conservative???
Shoot Amit you better watch out if ICE ever comes here being a brown skinned man if you know what I mean. You are a goof guy I wouldn’y 3want to ever see you get hassled. Or maybe that is your ticket to $3 million lawsuit for wrongful arrest? haha In my book you are in no way Hispanic looking but really that is at the ICE officer’s discretion. I don’t think we need more ICE. Staten Island is one safe place. People don’t ever realize how safe bc we have the PJs and that brings up the crime for everywhere else.
Dude, are you sick? Amit, idk about that advice screw a lawsuit! if you see Ice drive the other way! You might end up in El Salvador and have to learn to speak Spanish or something. haha You guys from India are so smart anyway so what’s that anyway like an afternoon to you to learn a language prep a fifty course meal and take care of five kids? haha And correct the dictionary errors while you at it. haha But on the real real dude watch out they coming. Finally a time being Black means I won’t have a target on my back. Not tryna be cruel but this is what we got for years. Don’t wish that on another race.
Whatever this thing is, it certainly exists.
I think these are the scum that were messing with President Trump and there is a connection. Charlie said that Gropyers were harassing him for years. But I doubt it’s them.
I don’t just mean there’s only a connection to the time they shot at the President. And the other time they didn’t get that far. It seems all connected.
There must be a “they.” My guess is not the one you might have. I don’t think it’s necessarily the Gropyers.
But also — I think calling “them” “the left” does a disservice to 50% of Americans. We’re talking about nutjob terrorists. 100% not the LGB librarian with purple hair.
The network of scum buckets is neither left nor right. They are not this religion or that. Maybe demon worshipers, albeit inadvertently? Ideologically, like these last young mass shooters who were nihilistic weirdos who couldn’t get a date with their left arm even after steroids an a nose job.
But does it go deeper? Is this just a “Game” that real deviants play on the dark web? Weaponizing promising young men and making them go AWOL but without real ideology behind the acts? Just because “they” find this fun?
These incels seem to definitely be draconian anarchists of some stripe, and they hate the USA and so probably both the Dem and G O P.
The bullet casing inscriptions proves they just wanted to leave us guessing and that they are just a giant troll.
Could be Democrat. Could be Republican. It’s probably neither. But who really controls these kids? ? ? ?
Someone itching for civil war. They want to take the guns. Alex Jones was right. And they shot AJ’s staffer also.
Somehow this is all random? No way.
FIRSTLY: Rest in Peace, Charlie Kirk. You were certainly a one-in-a-million guy.
SECONDLY: I just don’t see this connection you’re saying here. You aren’t proving a thing. Just saying it “seems” like there is “something” — some “they” — secretly connecting it all.
I’ve spent years doing investigations. You can’t work that way. I get what you’re saying.
But that’s just a hunch. If I went on every hunch without some supporting evidence, I would have gotten no where.
Let’s say you are right. Who in the world is doing this? Why would they want our guns? At the end of the day, it is just conspiracy theory with no real meat. The thing is, we all want answers. But we need the correct answers.
I mean, I can also say that we have a case of space aliens taking over our civilization by pitting us against one another , setting up mass shooters, framing the innocent, and all the while using mind control and high-carb snacks and soda. Can you disprove that? It’s a junky hunch, because I can’t prove it one way or the other.
This all reads like a B-list movie plot. My guess? Every shooter all acted alone. Coincidences happen. Social trends happen. It’s just a recurring pattern for young white men, I’m embarrassed to admit. But…why? Some say white boys are being pushed aside, in favor of girls, in favor of LGBT, in favor of foreign students. I have no idea. Just wondering. Getting hyper-masculinized by bro culture,then finding women don’t go for that? I have no idea.
Insightful comment
I think these shooters (another one today,, this time a church) are obviously radicalized but what are the are social dynamics involved? What is going on? Saying it’s the Democrats isn’t cutting muster anymore. We want answers. How do young men get so messed up these days? And the teens and 20 somethings in my family and block are lost. First of all they do not go outside. I see these kids in August and they pale A*. They don’t socialize though I do get that malls now kick teens out. Some answers needed.
Holy Crap….another f****** shooter. This time in Michigan. LDS church if u haven’t heard.
Shooter suspect (deceased): Thomas Jacob Sanford
Had a f***** truck with not one but TWO GIANT American flags. Now I know some of you are like ‘hold it there, I have a flag and my friend has two on his truck’ .
Fair enough. The flag thing doesn’t necessarily mean nutjob. But it is true that the bad apples are hiding amongst the good. Don’t become afraid of the American Flag. Just watch out. It seems there is a pattern here. A bunch of miscreants who hate America but fly the flag? Umm… I guess? Makes no sense to a non-disabled mind broken by cult think. I don’t know wht they are saying about this one. Is he a Democrat? Is he a Republican? Let’s take guesses. My guess he is a NVE. This is some odd stuff we’re seeing. They are antiSemites and antiChristian. Demon worshippers? Some weird s*** has to be going on. I feel like we’re in a movie at this point. What next? I’m not happy with what’s going on, just like everyone else isn’t.
Condolences, Mr. Kirk and family.
The JFKed this guy for a reason. Don’t let who ever did this win.
Don’t stop what Charles started! Don’t let the left and right go to war!
That is what they want and it is what Charlie fought.
If you respect what he dies for, you won’t war with anyone but you will talk and debate.
No jokes today. This is serious.
“Whoever did this” was some young guy who needed a few shock treatments.
I say reopen the mental wards and let there be a sort of enlistment and get all young people shock treatment so they forget their generation z training at the hands of libbies and after that they may actually be okay though I highly doubt it. They would all get a shock treatment according to my plan every last one and not use those pills that they say cause the kids to go nuts just like they say the trans hormones and the anger at having transed gives the young people who think they are transgender. I say shock treatment until they are all happy and normal again even if it takes 1000 shock treatments. That is safer I would know I had two relatives that needed it and afterwards both were fine. Don’t believe the movies. Shock treatment is safe these days and better than pills. The pills are communist pills sent by the commies overseas. They put the chemicals in the pills and the pills are made to turn the boys into women and make them want to get the surgeries. They say that they also put chips in the pills and the chips form a network in your body with your blood vessels as a sort of wires. How crazy is that that they can do that at this point. It is called marjellons.
You started off kind of..off..in that post and by the end you were out in space.
The chips in the pills are not Morgelions. The chips are real and it’s no secret. It’s called Smart Pills. They don’t form a “network” with your blood vessels. It’s for tracking medication.
“A digital pill (also known as a smart pill, or ingestible sensor) is a pharmaceutical dosage form that contains an ingestible sensor inside of a pill. The sensor begins transmitting medical data after it is consumed.”
wikipedia
RIP Charlie Kirk
wow,,,schizophrenia in full bloom, I presume!
man, see a doctor and tell them what you think!
you need to share your amazing ideas with a doctor who can help you with these concerns.
Eh, leave the guy alone. He’s not so far off, really. There are plastics everywhere that can affect male hormones. The shock treatment part. I mean. He has firsthand experience of family members benefiting. He’s not telling you something he wouldn’t probably do himself.
Nah, he sounds like another happy customer. Probly been back for the shock more times than your kids have whined and got you to go through the Micky D drive through
Don’t you know that shock treatment is reserved for TRULY mentally ill people?
The “Woke Mind Virus” is just a dumb phrase people throw around.
There is no such thing.
It’s just people expressing views different than your own. And shock treatment is not without its costs. But again, it’s for people who really need treatment of that kind, not just your political enemies. You sound like Pol Pot. You are some draconian screwball. I hope you see you are way off in your thinking.
Yeah, the guy was a liberal and was opposed to Charlie Kirk. Plain and simple.
People killing each other over their views is nothing new. Welcome to humanity.
We go up and down in cycles. I guess this is a down cycle of civilization right now, despite technology and all the info, everywhere.
This was a beautiful article. Thank you editors for some sanity here. I cancelled my sub to the ****. **** them. They want a Civil War? I’ll show them I disagree and not going to support that. If you do the same and we all do we will drive these nutzo news stations out of business. ALL OF THEM. Left an right. They suck. News? More like a fire hose of BS.
what a load of tripe
you didn’t cancel anything i bet
huffing and puffing and that is all
me
i don’t pay for news
not worth a dime
Kenny I used to be just like you. In fact I still don’t pay a dime however the thing is every news site has a paywall and the few that don’t require a login. So I am left with a few news platforms I rely on for news and the Staten Islander is one of my top ten. Really I am watching the internet die and I am not on Facebook or Twitter or X or whatever you call it. I refuse. I liked the smaller forums back in the day. Yes I am 70. I have been online since 1990. Way different. More talk then. More commerce now. And the giant sites are not like the old ones. They can’t be by definition.
May God bless Charlie Kirk!
the details coming out keep changing
RIP Charlie Kirk
These poltical shows on YouTube are just more internet crap. You guys are used to low quality entertainment. All you guys watch is Fox or CNN or influencers on your own political side and so it’s politics non stop all day and night. That can’t be healthy. I’m sorry but that’s the truth. You guys go bonkers over politics. Get a hobby. Do something.
Well it is sort of a war. We have to fight the libs everywhere we go. OFC I don’t mean breaking any laws. Just, you know, kind of just not letting up the pressure. They’re a bunch of pansies and they only understand crying and playing victim. America is split exactly in two halves with a good side and an evil side. I wouldn’t be on the evil side. I don’t have toxic empathy for libs. Not one bit. I don’t encourage anyone doing anything illegal or immoral. But it is immoral to do nothing and not try to help them become normal again, They caught the woke mind virus.
“Toxic empathy”
“woke mind virus”
I am embarrassed we’re both Republicans.
Oh, and presumably, Christians.
This was gruesome. Drudge had the link right at the top. I shouldn’t have clicked. JFK we all watched, I’m sure. I’ve seen the footage from many angles, in so many documentaries I can’t count.
This is different.
This, don’t watch. Horrible.
Condolences to Charlies family
noooooooooooooo
politics and religion don’t mix
Not trying to disappoint you guys but Christianity is a fake religion. If you read the Bible Jesus has nothing to do with any of Christianity. He was a freaking Jew! I doubt he was trying to start a new religion.
Try Buddhism next. Or any form of Christianity that actually gets the message. Anything but mainstream Christianity.
I feel bad this guy Charlie Kirk I never heard of before was murdered in cold blood. He died for religion. What a waste.
I agree with his American values. But that is it.
The shooter wasn’t a liberal he was a Groyper.
He has online photos of wearing a Halloween costume of a “Slav squat.”
Also the memes on the bullet casings are all memes from the far-right.
So he was a far-right gay man with a trans boy/girl friend?
That is so odd.
Is Groyper synonymous with Neo-Nazi? All I know is that hunched over pod-caster forgot his name is some sort of anti-semite and he is a supposedly a Groyper. Is it just another word for gamer? Let me check for anyone who also doesn’t know.
“The Groypers, sometimes called the Groyper Army, are a group of alt-right, white nationalist, and Christian nationalist activists led by Nick Fuentes. Groypers are a loosely defined group of Fuentes’s followers and fans.[4][5] After him, there is no clear second in the Groyper hierarchy. Groypers are named after a cartoon amphibian named “Groyper”, a variant of the Internet meme Pepe the Frog. ”
-wikipedia
OK, I guess I did sort of know? that doesn’t help much. Are these the same as the “incels?”
This is why I don’t bother with social media or discussing this garbage usually.
Condolences Charlie Kirk. You had a good idea for a show that got a lot of views and let people debate in public without needing much overhead. Brilliant. A low-cost show that the audience makes.
I am happy seeing Staten Island defy the stereotypes. Here and on Facebook I see vibrant talk from the island. They want you to think we’re brain dead but highest number of college grads in the five borough. So that means something. Income too. I come on here the first time today it’s like discovering a new world.
This is a Youtube video I found that explains how some Christians feel. (I do not agree with most of this and I think Charlie Kirk is a Real American Hero.) But just because I found this online and the video was interesting I am posting this here. There is no more solid Republicans and Democrats with two views, one Red and one Blue. There are so many splinter groups with different views it’s confusing as ever trying to make sense of the American social scene. It’s that people now have more nuanced ideologies. Differences in faith (even amongst Christians) are accentuated, not the commonality of living as Christ directed.
One thing I know for sure. I am Republican but I wouldn’t want to breathe the same air as many other Republicans these days. Holier-than-thou total asses. And, yes, I said that and I am still a Believer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-wXiH0Ls90
From the video description:
“Charlie Kirk built his career wrapping politics in religion but the Christian community isn’t letting it slide anymore. In the wake of his death, believers are pulling out the receipts, exposing how his philosophy twisted faith into a weapon for culture wars….when Christianity gets hijacked by ideology, when power replaces humility and when winning political battles matters more than living the gospel…”
Condolances to Charlie Kirk’s wife and kids
What is wrong with this country is a rejection of Jesus Christ this nation was built on the Word of God Almighty a True Christian Nation in fact
I hope they get to the network of trans kids who are shooting up the place and doing all these crimes
Statistics don’t lie. Trans kids have only been a fraction of shooters. But it is largely males. The first school sh00t3r was a girl. Digest that one.
Oh, and our nation was founded by all kinds of people including Freemasons. It wasn’t at all about Jesus otherwise we’d have a Statue of Christianity not a Statue of Liberty in NY harbor. All religions and even secret societies have a place in the United States. Freedom,you know?
Nine of the fifty-six men (16%) that signed the Declaration of Independence were Masons and thirteen of the thirty-nine (33%) that signed the US Constitutions were also Masons.
Bruh, the ops fr fr just zoomed a ride through the church front during a massive massive service like, started bustin’ caps,
then lit the spot on fire,
like, mega-rizzly.
The popo have some real feels they might still find some skibidi victims in the cooked skadoodolop. That’s straight up cooked.
I am skibidi tired of hearing this inanity. Boys and girls, young men and women, stop saying this. You sound like doofuses. .